How to register your drone in Thailand
Updated on 4/01/2018 with information that the deadline for registering a radio controlled device with NBTC is 9 January 2018. After that, you face up to five years in prison for non compliance.
If you intend to fly a drone in Thailand, whether as a hobby or for commercial reasons, you have to by law register your drone first. If you don’t you could face a fine of up to 100,000 Baht or even up to five years in prison. They are serious about this, so before you fly, make sure you register your drone with the National Broadcasting and Telecommunications Commission (NBTC). In addition, if your drone has a camera (any weight) or weighs over two kilos then you need to obtain insurance and get permission to fly from the Civil Aviation Authority of Thailand (CAAT). Their fine for not doing this is up to 40,000 Baht and up to one year in prison. Before you ask, if you have a toy drone, for example weighing less than 250g, then the NBTC or CAAT are not interested. However, they have specifically said that the small DJI Spark needs to be registered.
Scroll down for how to register your drone and for links to download the forms.
When I first started flying drones in Thailand I hardly ever saw any other drone pilots. I also didn’t face any problems about where I could fly. Security guards would come over if they saw me flying, not because it was illegal, but because they were curious to see the live pictures from above. Sadly, those days are long gone. Security guards are more likely to chase you away or sometimes you will see signs like the one above which prohibits the flying of drones. This is not necessarily because of any new laws, it is mainly because just about everyone decided to get a drone for Christmas. Now, with so many people flying, it is no longer the novelty and people, sometimes quite rightly, are fed up with the buzzing sound of the drones flying low over their heads.
When I attend an event these days, there are usually four or five drones flying. And quite honestly, some of these pilots are very dangerous. They are not keeping their drones in line of sight. They are just watching their screens. Which means the possibility of a collision is quite high. I have seen them go down before, either crashing into buildings, trees and power lines, or just colliding with another drone. I tend not to fly at events any more. Partly because it is distracting to people who might be watching a show, but also it is quite dangerous if there is a large crowd. The number one rule for drone pilots is to make sure you have a wide and clear area in case of an emergency landing. This kind of thing is why the Ministry of Transport came out with a new law about the use of drones in Thailand.
Scroll down for the law regarding drones in Thailand.
Even after you have registered your drone with the NBTC, bought insurance and have permission to fly from CAAT, you still need to obey the following rules. If not, you will be subject to a fine and maybe imprisonment.
Once you have permission from the land owner to fly, you must obey these rules while flying:
- must not fly in a way that may cause harm to the life, property and peace of others
- must not fly into restricted area, limited area and dangerous area announced in Aeronautical Information Publication – Thailand or AIP-Thailand and also at government buildings and hospitals unless permission is given.
- take-off and landing area must not be obstructed by anything
- must keep the Unmanned Aircraft in line-of-sight at all times and not rely on the monitor or other devices
- must only fly between sunrise and sunset when the Unmanned Aircraft can clearly be seen
- must not fly in or near clouds
- must not fly within 9 km (5 nautical miles) from airport or temporary airfield unless having permission from the airport or airfields operators
- must not fly over 90 meters above the ground
- must not fly over cities, villages, communities or areas where people are gathered
- must not fly near other aircraft that have pilots
- must not violate the privacy rights of others
- must not cause a nuisance to others
- must not deliver or carry dangerous items or lasers on the Unmanned Aircraft
- must not fly horizontally closer than 30 meters (100 feet) to people, vehicles, constructions or buildings
For the full regulations, click here, or visit the CAAT website for the latest up to date information.
Before I continue, I should point out something in the above infographic released by CAAT which is contradictory to the regulations. The infographic says you need to have a licence to fly if your drone has a camera, even if it is less than two kilos. But, the regulations do not say anything about that. From what I, and other people understood, if you have a small drone like a Spark or Mavick that weighs less than two kilos, you do not need to get permission to fly from CAAT. As long as you are not using it for commercial reasons and you obey the above rules. However, officials we have spoken to at CAAT insist that you still have to get permission to fly. We asked specifically about the smallest of drones, DJI Spark, and they said yes, we would need insurance and permission to fly.
Scroll down for how to register your drone with NBTC.
If you intend to fly a drone in Thailand, then by Thai law you must register it first with the NBTC before the 9 January 2018 deadline. If you don’t, you are violating the Communications Radio Act. Apparently, only 350 drones have been registered up to now out of an estimated 50,000 drones in Thailand. Which is why there is now a crackdown on drones. Before, we probably would have gotten away with flying without a license if we were discreet. But, now, thanks to all of the publicity, everyone knows that you must register your drone or you will face up to five years in prison. It was front page news in the Bangkok Post (see the article here) and other national newspapers.
The following is what I did to register my drones with NBTC in Bangkok. They have 17 offices around Thailand, and so you don’t need to do this here. Also, you are apparently allowed to register at your local police station. I know people who have done this, but make sure you download the form in advance as they won’t know anything about it. My advice is to go to your local NBTC officer. In Thai it is “กสทช.”, just search for it on google maps. For the one in Bangkok, it is on Soi Phahonyothin 8. Click here for the map link. When you arrive, you will see the big building in the photo above. You need to go to Building 2, first floor. From the front gate, turn right and walk down a path. Don’t go through security. You will see the building on your right near the road.
Before you go, you should prepare the following. If you do so, then you will be in and out in just five minutes. That is how long it took me to register my two drones.
- Sign a copy of your passport
- Proof of address like house registration, lease, rental contract or work permit (this is new)
- Photos of your drone and the serial number on your drone
- Two copies of the filled in application form
That’s it if you are just flying as a hobby like myself. If you are media or a registered company, then there are more documents that you need.
NOTES:
- You don’t need to take your drone into the office. Though some people did.
- Stick the photos on a piece of A4 paper and then sign the sheet of paper.
- You need a set of documents for each of your drones.
- The serial numbers are on a sticker on the drone box. I took a picture of that.
- Print the application form on both sides of a sheet of paper. Or pick one up at their office.
- The filled in form needs to be photocopied. This is what they stamp and return to you.
This is a link to the page on the NBTC page about the regulations. This is a direct link to download the form. It is only in Thai. I will take you through it step by step below. Scroll down.
The first three fields to fill in are for “Day/Month/Year”
The next section is about the weight of your drone. I ticked the first one as my drones are less than 2 kilos. The others are for between 2 and 25 kilos, and for more than 25 kilos.
Number 5 is your first name and number 6 is your family name. Number 7 is your age. Number 8 and 9 is your nationality. I wrote UK.
Numbers 10-12 is your birthday written as Day/Month/Year. Number 13 is your ID card number. I wrote my passport number.
Number 15-21 is your address. 15 is the house number, 16 the Soi number, 17 the road name, 18 the Tambon or kwang name, 19 the Amphoe or Khet name, 20 the province name, and 21 the post code. Number 22 is your telephone number. I didn’t fill in the rest.
UPDATE: They didn’t ask me for proof of address when I went, but now they apparently are. I’m not sure yet what tourists can do about this.
I didn’t fill in Section 2 as I am a private individual. Continue to page two.
For Number 23, I ticked the first box as I just fly for a hobby. The others are for media, businesses etc.
For Number 24, I wrote the name of my drone. For Number 25 it is asking for the number of drones and rotors. I wrote one drone and four rotors. I was registering a DJI Phantom 3 and a DJI Spark. I did this on two different forms. I guess if you have two of the same then use the same form.
For number 26, I wrote the serial number of the drone. As I said before, it is on a sticker on your box. Number 27 is the weight. Number 28 is for what equipment is fixed. I said camera. Number 29 is the maximum height it can go in meters. Number 30 is the frequency. For mine I wrote 2.400 – 2.483 GHz.
That’s it. Sign your name and then write your name clearly in the brackets below. The other signatures are for the officials. Hand them into the officer at the reception. It took them about five minutes to check everything and stamp it. The registration is free at the moment.
UPDATED: When I went to the NBTC office, the official said that there was no need for me to do anything else. They said they would forward my application to CAAT. But people who went later are reporting that NBTC officials are now saying that you also need to get permission to fly from CAAT. This is because at NBTC you are just registering your radio communications device. I rang CAAT and an official there confirmed this. They also added you need to get insurance first before they would accept your application. The whole process will take about two months. Maybe longer now as over 1,300 drones were registered at NBTC in the first week alone. Some people in the comments below have said that after they registered with CAAT, they were told that they would pass on their registration to NBTC. So, no need to do both.
If you want to do that yourself, then click here for the forms and regulations in English. If you search for Thai drone insurance on Facebook you will find some companies that offer it. If you have experience of registering your drone in Thailand, or you have any questions, then please feel free to post them below in the comments. Please remember, if you do fly your drone in Thailand, please do so responsibly. It only needs one person to fly over the Grand Palace or crash into an aircraft for drones to be banned for everyone.
PLEASE READ THE COMMENTS BELOW FOR SOME USEFUL ADVICE.
Once I do the registration on Caat online do I need to register at NBTC also ? I am having conflicting information on this. Thank you
Yes you need both. They are very clear about this and thank goodness I got Danny to do all that massive headache for me.
John
I have ready my license 15 months ago ……!!!!
Before to receive final License from CAAT
I went to visit NTBC local office Province Ubon I shown my pétition to CAAT and officer tel me do not need to déclare is integrated by CAAT ( one part data is dedicated for that …)
refer to CAAT Shown in the slid information public inside régistration CAAT NTBC is included …
This the report meeting with NBTC
NBU (NBTC) Regional Office 2, Ubon Ratchathani 09/01/2018 9H30 AM
Area of responsibility: 6 provinces: Ubon Ratchathani, Si Sa Ket, Surin, Amnat Charoen, Yasothon
The dead line for radio registration is close and I had meeting with Office Manager this morning
My Question 1: Do you confirm if we have registered the drone ready to CAAT do not need to
Answer from Office Manager: Correct! you do not Need because CAAT request ready your
My Question 2: If people have a drone and do not use it …. what is the position of the
Answer: Should be registered as per the law, never mind if you do not flight all radio equipment
My question 3: Do you confirm if you register to NBTC you have a registration to CAAT?
Answer: Yes! you must to register CAAT if you have Camera on board drone. Do not confuse, BNTC
My question 4: Finally, how many drones has been recorded for your 6 Provinces under your
Answer: At today we have 153 drones recorded! registration NBTC is closed now!!!
I give you the copy of total report for the Kingdome, sorry is in Thai
Then you know a great deal more than I do SPREX64. I was led to believe you definitely need both. And as I said I am so pleased Danny did it all for me.
For your information
When Officer contact you after registration control CAAT
He send an spécific form declaration this document never is mentioned during the process registration CAAT is requested only when your registration have been controlled and long time after You will be contacted by Mail …..
please check the self declaration form shall be signed about national security and sentence punishment
https://www.dropbox.com/s/71729j9b6quinu0/Self%20declaration%2019-Avril%202018%20doc%20requirement%20added%20by%20CAAT%20%281%29.pdf?dl=0
Regards
John did you have licence ?
I push too many legal document to prove what I am talking ….
in this forum to many people ask and talk but do not provide any documents !!!! it is fantastic
10′ Minutes ago I have provide to you an infographie from CAAT for process registration you can see NBTC is inside process !!!!!
I give you the meeting report with NBTC Provincial … again not considered
I translate the process What I can do it for this forum ?????
it is same for AIP 5.1 nobody talk about this important juridic document named inside the Act Drone 2015
When we have ready experience with drone everybody know AIP 5.1 an NOTAM aero
I am very disappointed
I try to help people but clearly not interested !!!!!
If you think I am wrong please contact the officer CAAT
Apiwat Chanrueang [email protected]
Air Traffic Management Standards Division (TS)
Air Navigation Services Standards Department (ANS)
regards
Please look what say CAAT inside process registration infographie
here
This document is an official document the process registration CAAT shown clearly NBTC is the part of registration !!! https://www.dropbox.com/s/rf8bw9f6tzvmzf0/CAAT%20REGISTRATION%20PROCESS%20SEPTEMBER%202017%20TH-EN.JPG?dl=0
It is terrible this forum any time I provide to many legal documents from authority nobody comment
of course I have ready my License 15 month ago ….
Same situation inside Thaivisa
Regards
Also in the purpose section I would need to select aerial video and photography ? thank you
Talked to the insurance company and told me you can fill the registration mark with the model number or leave it empty. As for the purpose select the recreation entertainment and sports.
Hi I am filling out the insurance form and in the section drone information it asks for Registration marks. What would that be ? I have an anafi drone. Thanks
Hi Andrew, I’m not sure what you mean by ‘Thai-only drone insurance’ but yes, all drone policies here cover only activity in Thailand. If someone was travelling regionally through Thailand and other countries and wants to use their drone, the Thai policy won’t help elsewhere and will not defend you in court – unless you had say Falcon’s policy and request them to extend claim jurisdiction internationally which they probably (could) but don’t want to do.
Yeah that’s what I meant. I live in USA and have insurance that only works in thailand, but since i can’t get caat registration, the insurance cant even be used where i live, so it was a total waste of time and $100 usd.
Hi there has anyone applied for the jp Insurance for drone?
The price is 1399 baht vs mittare 3000 baht
I have mittare insurance phantom 3 adv the cost is 4090 bahts for 2 million
Hi Et, Massimo, I’m a licensed insurance broker in Bkk for 10 yrs. Just FYI, do note that the Mittare policy is really a first party accident / medical expenses insurance policy dressed up as liability insurance and is not actually a legal liability or public liability insurance policy. You will not find any reference to cover for legal defense costs or legal compensation for example which is what a liability policy is supposed to do. Although it is titled as Liability Insurance , If you read the benefit details closely you’ll see it is just paying the medical expenses of a third party and some amount for damage to others. It will do nothing if you are sued. The product is dressed up to meet the CAAT requirements and wave a piece of paper sufficient for the CAAT needs. Mittare management , similar to other local Thai insurers , don’t like liability insurance and so offer this bandaid.
P.s there was a proper drone legal liability insurance policy available from Falcon Ins for around THB 3500 / year , if they still do it. JP Ins Co is a very small local Thai business with no known track record or expertise in this area and again you’d need to look closely at the details (policy wording specimen) of what the policy is actually doing and ask the insurer to directly confirm in writing any issue you have doubts about.
Thank you very much et and stuart. I will be using the drone only in few places in sisaket out in the country side and away from people. My parrot anafi is very quiet and small , you wouldnt know it was up there 😎.
Good evening,
Subject your affirmation I would like to know more about what allows you to say that Mittare Insurance drone does not cover the civil liability and on which document and page it is written?
the police Mittare proposes 3 plans whose A declined in A1 / 2/3/4/5
Mittare does not produce his fonts in English and his font is locked to any attempt to convert ….
So I suppose you read the 7 pages of the policy cover guarantees in Thai language?
For Drone Insurance Mittare is represented by Thai Drone Insure
http://dronethaiinsurance.com/plan.html
Mittare insurance
but, like me, I can deal directly with the company, and I can tell you that the police cover the damage to third parties, it is clearly written in the police
and know that Drone Thai Insure brings together most of the Thai flying drones and has a direct link with the CAAT National Authority
The organization Drone Thai insure only sells Mittare insurance on the 3 proposed plans
falcon drone insurance
https://www.falconinsurance.co.th/index.php?name=Product&action=view&product_id=86
Regards
Hi Sprex,
1. Thai staff are useful of course and both products are available in ENG anyway.
2. Thai Drone Insure are an insurance agent and are not employees of Mittare, at least last time we asked them.
3. You can check the points mentioned about proper intentions (assuming you know / understand legal drafting of liability insurance policies) of a public / legal liability insurance policy with Mittare senor management (ie the person who created their product). Same with Falcon. Senior product staff managing the drone policy at both companies have some reasonable english.
4. CAAT are simply fighting a big paper war and like most government staff or any other buyers of insurance in Thailand, understand nothing about how policies , especially liability policies work, or the insurance language. You can go meet the CAAT people at their office in Din Daeng. CAAT staff are often changing, who are handling the work and have no insurance training besides.
5. Yes as I said in my msg, there is a benefit stated in Mittare’s policy to pay damage to a third party for damage (but not injury). And yes, Mittare and other Thai insurers have paid claims without a court process.
6. If you do live in Thailand for significant time, you’d know that everything is about selling only.
7. We no longer provide these policies or sell them due to the headache for everybody from the Drone process registration here. My message is for information only , to those people, usually western, who may buy Drone insurance products like Mittare’s (and other’s here) and expect it to operate in the same way as public / legal liability policies in their home countries do (provide your legal defence in court and pay compensation awarded to a third party in court) and in the more advanced local insurance markets such as Singapore, HK, Malaysia, Labuan, Indonesia for example.
8. My message says that you will not find the normal required elements of public / legal liability insurance policy in Mittare’s policy. It is not a question of exclusions. It is a question of what is (not) stated in the insuring clause and necessary legal defence clauses which are not there.
Cheers.
If you are outside of thailand, DO NOT waste your money on drone insurance. You cannot get CAAT registration without a visa stamp. Only way to get that is by going through an embassy before you leave or getting a stamp when you arrive. I made the mistake and am out $100 with useless thai-only drone insurance.
Add me to the list of “unable to get CAAT because I don’t have a visa stamp.” This is beyond ridiculous. I just wasted $100 on insurance, just to realize it’s literally impossible for me to get my CAAT registration. I’m only in Thailand for 3 weeks – even if I went through the hassle of finding an internet cafe and trying to do a new application with my now-stamped passport, I will be be back home before its even approved. What a waste of time, money, and effort. I think this is officially me giving up.
I still don’t understand why u would bother with all the hassle,I gave up sold my drone .
Will buy another when we move back to Australia.
anybody had any luck to get all paper work to fly ? I send online 5 times the form, each time something else is missing or wrong 🙁 Probably wast of time because I read here even if the paperwork is correct it takes several months.. Its probably to discourage most not to fly and film, but sad because with every good aerial posted online we promote Thailand as tourist destination :~)
Is anyone getting the license from the CAAT ?
It took 1 year to get the NCBT license, now its been 1 1/2 year, and nothing from CAAT.
Got mine, perhaps I was lucky.
So I don’t know if it is a trend or not. I would be interested if anyone else got it.
Good luck.
I got mine after about a year.
Thai friend called CAAT to chase my application, CAAT requested my latest Entry Visa/Stamp, and asked for a fresh drone serial number photo. Licence came a few days later.
Congratulations.
Did you have a years wasted insurance?
I have quadcopter. But not flying.
Two things that annoys me is the loss of time everyone has to wait and the wasted insurance that had been paid.
Goodluck and enjoy your flying.
I am not sure how long my insurance is but I know I am fine for the moment.
Take a look at my general reply.
Thanks and good luck.
@Les CAAT did not ask me for new insurance even though my insurance in the application had expired.
NBTC lost my documents, I did have to buy new insurance when I re-applied to NBTC
If you are NO NON-MIGRANT VISA (Résident long stay 1 year) you will have wait longt time my Friend !!!!
I can talk …… because I have my official license 1 year ago from CAAT
The process after application is hard more document request by CAAT ….
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0z81sijowbc4tmo/No%20ID%20Official%20assignation%20drone%20license%2017%20JULY%202018.JPG?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nwpga6ylwhfde1h/No%20ID%20Official%20drone%20license%2017%20JULY%202018.JPG?dl=0
regards
I have the long term retirement visa.
Why does it make a difference to what visa a person to get a license?
You can contact this person he is in charge to verify your application
Khun Pimchada Srithip
[email protected]
It took 15 minutes to get the NBTC registration. It took 4 months to get the CAAT registration and they lost my documents at least 4 times.
CAAT is an organization in complete chaos. They even lose documents for the airline pilot registrations according to one of my friends who is flying for Thai airways…
Martin,
Do you mind telling me what area of Thailand you are in?
I live in Surin Provence and din’t Know if anyone with a drone or a fixed wing model.
It is interesting to correspond with other to see what is happening in other areas.
I don’t live in Thailand. I live in Perth, Australia. But I holiday in Thailand 2 or 3 or even 4 times a year.
I used to go to direct to Patong. But now I go to Bangkok for a few days then Phuket. I have been trying to get to Chiang Mai but it has been poor air pollution of late.
I will get there one day.
If you live in Thailand you can take a Thai with you to the offices and speak direct to people. If you don’t live there you are reliant on emails and in my case Danny. I fly a Phantom 4 Pro V2.0
I’m in Samutprakarn area.
Sorry my link is wrong for
UAV’S RADIO EQUIPMENT REGISTRATION
แบบ คท.30
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2ec23hq10wluheu/%E0%B8%84%E0%B8%B3%E0%B8%82%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%82%E0%B8%B6%E0%B9%89%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%97%E0%B8%B0%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%9A%E0%B8%B5%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%9C%E0%B8%B9%E0%B9%89%E0%B8%9A%E0%B8%B1%E0%B8%87%E0%B8%84%E0%B8%B1%E0%B8%9A%E0%B8%AB%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%B7%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%9B%E0%B8%A5%E0%B9%88%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%A8%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%AF-%28%E0%B8%84%E0%B8%97-30%29.pdf?dl=0
I just came back from NBTC office in Bangkok. As of February 07, 2019 the requirements for documents to bring, changed. Now you need to bring:
1. Drone Registration Forms
– Registration Form
– Owners declaration of conformity Form
2. Copy of passport (Your details) as well as copy of Visa/Visa stamp
3. Notification of staying in the kingdom of Thailand (Expiry date of stay permit/Visa in your passport or others) – A copy of it
4. Notifications of residence for foreigners (copy of booking hotel or others)
5. Photo of drone
– Serial Number of drone
– Serial Number of Remote Control
Fill out every form and sign every piece of paper. In the Bangkok office they DO NOT offer the service of copying or printing anything. You have to bring everything – if you don’t, you need to come back a second time.
Registration of CAAT still remains and is NOT done by them.
Thank you Patrick CAAT had been and will be the only place we need to deal with to obtain license to fly
I just re read the list and it doesn’t look too bad.
I may just have a go at it, can someone direct me to the – Owners declaration of conformity Form? If I turn up in Bangkok in April and take the forms in will I stand much chance of being successful? Are tourists having much success in registering? I presume it’s a few hours waiting I don’t speak Thai so my English will have to do.
So can someone tell me realistically is it worth me trying.
Can these forms be download? if yes thanks in advance.
– Registration Form
– Owners declaration of conformity Form
Hello Ron
As I explained several times the online recording of your Drone at CAAT included the recording at NBTC radio communication
Here is the online process indicated by the CAAT
you can see that the NBTC is included ….
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ezpi9h8yg3x1l1k/Drone%20Registration%20procedure%20CAAT%2013-11-2017.pdf?dl=0
If you do not wish to use and fly with your drone in the Kingdom, you must make a statement to the NBTC or the Police for the possession of a radio communication equipment
https://www.dropbox.com/s/n7818bbpshx0bzf/NBTC%20RADIO%20IMPORT%20DRONE%20CUSTOM%20NEW%20RULE%20%E0%B9%81%E0%B8%9A%E0%B8%9A%E0% B8% 84% E0% B8% B3% E0% B8% 82% E0% B8% AD-32.pdf? dl = 0
here is the form ค ท. 32
Owner’s Declaration of Conformity (ODoC) Form
NBTC Office of the National Broadcasting and Telecommunications Commission
And registration form for NBTC แบบ คท.30
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2ec23hq10wluheu/%E0%B8%84%E0%B8%B3%E0%B8%82%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%82%E0%B8%B6%E0%B9%89%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%97%E0%B8%B0%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%9A%E0%B8%B5%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%9C%E0%B8%B9%E0%B9%89%E0%B8%9A%E0%B8%B1%E0%B8%87%E0%B8%84%E0%B8%B1%E0%B8%9A%E0%B8%AB%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%B7%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%9B%E0%B8%A5%E0%B9%88%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%A8%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%AF-%28%E0%B8%84%E0%B8%97-30%29.pdf?dl=0
Regards
I have a friend who is going to Bangkok in April for 3 weeks. He wants to fly a drone discreetly, because he has no Thai licence. Obviously he can not fly in the Bangkok area and he has flown in Phuket extensively and done the Erwin National area once. Can someone let me know, so I can pass on the information to him where he can fly where the population and or BiB are low in numbers that is pretty to record? He is well aware of the history and current situation and consequences of flying a drone as a farang without a licence and will carry “sorry notes” at all times, two or three “M” in case. I was thinking of Chiang Mai in the north or Phetchaburi seem to be have isolated places. It is surprisingly cheap to travel within Thailand once you are there.
Look at the AIP ENR.5.1 map of the authority that leads the no-go zones and the free zones
if it can help
Cordially
I did a movie here https://www.dropbox.com/s/ji5elxews0ze560/AIP%20NER%205.1%20NO%20DRONE%20FLY%20AREAS%20THAILAND.AVI?dl=0
or download this file and start google earth
แผนภาพแสดงเขตพื้นที่ห้ามบังคับหรือปล่อย.kmz
Thank you very much Bernard,
Someone has put a great deal of work into that presentation and I am grateful. But it is not quite what I was asking. There is for example a massive area just north of Perth WA that is a red area, CASA Australian Authority) have not answered why this area is marked as no fly zone. Thousands of people live and fly in this area every day. No one has ever been prosecuted for flying in this area. This is not the same in Thailand at all. If you fly anywhere in Thailand without the correct documentation you are in jeopardy of a big fine and possible imprisonment.
If you have no Thai licence you can not fly anywhere in Thailand. So it does not matter about red areas. I hope you get my question. If not no problem.
So my friend is looking for areas of beauty which are thinly populated.
[email protected]
Sorry John
but I answered your comment from February 28, 2019 to 21:51 where you asked for your friend where he can fly in Thailand
Can you specify exactly what you are looking for….. I do not understand
If I can Help you, I will do with pleasure ….
Info
Here my last with derogation since the zone is classified red VTD as per AIP NER5.1 (Flight of prohibited night and height on the person not respected etc …)
Note the presence of the Province Gouveneur and the local authorities SAO administration
So as you see it’s a reality
It’s not a commercial flight just an offering for the community
https://youtu.be/mrCJm3FLV_I
Thanks Bernard. I was looking for areas in Thailand that are thinly populated. I only holiday in Thailand a few times a year and it seems to be almost impossible to get registered. I seems to be getting more and more difficult.
Hi
I will be stopping in Bangkok for 3 days in July enroute to Bali. Any advice on taking my M2P. I am not planning on flying in Bangkok.
You should have no problem
Hello everyone
Demo ……
So here is a night flight performed during a Buddhist prayer ceremony
Big Buddha Area (Piyapha Mongkhon) Ubon Ratchathani Khuangnai District
https://youtu.be/Vy40AxWCJ6E
This video is not commercial
Office of Buddhism in every province Can download files Public relations label inviting Buddhists Attend Buddhism propagation week On the Makha Bucha Day, year 2019
Legale Conditions
Private flight DJI FANTOM 3 ADV
– Restricted area as per MAP AIP ENR 5.1 red code VTD44
– CAAT flight license
– Insurance Mittare
– Administrative authorization
– Chief Monk’s Authorization of the Big Buddha
– district communal authorization
Beware of people who fly without permission on a Buddha …….
As a reminder, night flights are forbidden ……
cordially
Thanks Richard
This is reassuring that my Mavic will not be impounded by customs.
Hey buddy, really nice article. I am flying to Bangkok next week and will bring my parrot anafi with me (similar to the mavic air). I will have to register in Bangkok with the NBTC and CAAT authorities it seems (correct me if I am wrong). However I will travel to Myanmar and stay there for 1/2 months before coming back to thailand . My question is how long does the offical permit lasts (if I can even get it)? since I plan to travel in SE for around 1 year and will do multiple reentries in Thailand.
Pedro
At this moment in time, there has been no crackdowns on bringing drones in and out of Thailand, although officially you need an input license. So, if you are not flying it here, no need to register.
Thank you for the quick answer.
Really glad to know!
How long does the official permit to fly the drone lasts in Thailand since I will be Travelling from and to Bangkok in the next year?
HI Pedro,
wanted just to confirm with you you did not have trouble with getting your unregistered drone in Thailand….how was it at the airport? were you bothered? asked for any license?
I will fly into Thailand from Vietnam and as it is a real complication I decided not to fly it there but still will need to take it with me into the country and do not want to take the risk to have it confiscated…
thanks for your feedback.
Hey Juan. No one asked me anything or even looked at the drone. No problem coming in with a drone to the country
Hi Perdo,
was it possible for you to get the drone licence in the office of the CAAT directly?
I’m leaving next week for thailand but I haven’t applied for the licence.
Havent tried yet. So far ive been flying without permit but only in remote places 😉
What if only buy drone in Thailand and then want to take it back to europe without registering with NBTC and CAAT? Would there be any problems at the airport? Thank you
No problem
No problem to live thailand
but after you have on arrival your national country tariff custom rule…..
and may be you will have to pay Taxe for this goods ( it is classified as per table international tarif table
It is a classic and standard way
No probs for me my is not registered at all ,i live in Thailand,take it in and out a lot ,don’t really fly here .
Dear John Gowland
I have provide to many legal document from the official notification from philippines CAAP authority if you prefere to believe commercial website no problème for me …
Please, read here more !!! and look the amendement ….
http://uavphilippines.com/dl/20151208%20-%20CAAP%20MC%2029-15.pdf
UAV Laws
The Civil Aviation Authority of the Philippines (CAAP) has released Memorandum Circular 29-15 titled “Amendment to the Philippine Civil Aviation Regulations (PCAR) Part 2, 4 and Part 11” dated December 8, 2015. It states that regulations on Remotely Piloted Aircraft are now part of the Philippine Civil Aviation Regulation (PCAR) and is in effect. MC 29-15 supersedes previously issued MC 35-14 and MC 21-14. The term Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (UAV) has been changed to Remotely Piloted Aircraft System (RPAS) in compliance with ICAO.
The new regulation amendments has been disseminated through a conference with RPA/UAV Operators during the 2nd CAAP UAV Stakeholder Conference at the Civil Aviation Authority of the Philippines on May 4, 2016.
Download a copy of the Civil Aviation Authority of the Philippines (CAAP) – Memorandum Circular 29-15 – Part 2, 4 and Part 11. – (PDF) Link: (Official – CAA Philippines) (Mirror – UAS)
UAV / RPAS Controllers (Pilot):
Drone owners and/or operators are now required to register their equipment with the CAAP, and secure a certification to operate from the agency. To be certified as a RPA “controller” (pilot), an applicant;
PCAR 2.13.3 – Eligibility for RPA Controller CertificateHas completed an RPAs training course as conducted by the RPA manufacturer in the operation of the type of RPA that he or she proposes to operate; and
Has at least five (5) hours experience in operating RPAs outside controlled airspace.
Has passed RPAS Exam
Has passed the demonstration flight conducted by the authorized personnel of the Authority.
UAV / RPAS Controllers (Foreign Controllers):
PCAR 2.13.10 – Validation of Foreign RPA Controller Certificate, License or Authorization.Note: This new provision provides a mechanism for foreign companies that possess a current and existing certificate or authorization from their country to be validated in order to operate in the Philippines.
UAV / RPAS Operators (Company/Organization):
PCAR 11.11.6.4 – No person may operate a RPA for commercial operations unless the person holds an RPAS Operator Certificate.
Hi Richard, thanks a ton for such a great post explaining everything! However, the NBTC links are broken and I had no luck to find it on their website. I’ve seen in your update that there is no need to do both, but would you be able to find it in case it’s still needed?
Anyone want to buy a near new Mavic air ,2 battery’s and carry case for 4 batts charger and drone ?
Im over it ,cant be bothered with all the hassle and dont wont the fines .
Or any advice on best place to sell ,Facebook,or bahtsold etc.
I am so sad I’m angry for you Shane it’s such a shame the Thai government could sell people a license and then there be no consequences as long as you stick to the basic rules of not flying within 5km of an airport or meters of people and machinery or doing silly things like over people it would increase tourism so much and in the time of decreasing tourism Thailand it’s really silly of them. Makes no sense whatsoever however Shane I don’t think you should give up I fly in Thailand almost every day a long way from anyone no one bothers me sometimes I ask a farmer or landowner sometimes they let me with pride the beauty of their land sometimes I pay them sometimes I give them my line number and they even warn me if there’s anything suspicious going on and protect me. The Thai people are very good but they’re also very poor. It’s the laws that are stupid. This is a golden opportunity to help Thai tourism. They should say come to our country fly your drone for a small fee obey the rules and you’ll be ok enjoy your holiday. What on earth is wrong with that?
Yes its a shame mate,I couldn’t even register at the NBTC for a start .
Because I bought second hand and didn’t have a reciept.
Other dudes register there homemade jobs ,i said what if someone gave it to me ?
They said i had to declare it at the airport on arrival ,wtf ,how are u supposed to know that.
Im going to Indonesia next year ,some remote spots ,i might just keep it for that,but kinda hard when taking a few surfboards as well .
Any extra luggage is gonna be a struggle and not much electricity for recharging.
Thanks John.
Does anyone know where I can find the cheapest drone insurance which will cover me with public liability worldwide? (I only need it for one month for my trip to Thailand).
I understand all the regulations around flying my drone in Thailand, but I am just wondering where the cheapest place to buy the required insurance will be (The quotes from the dedicated Thai Drone Insurers seem higher than I expect general worldwide cover would be).
Thanks
I don’t know about the cheapest or world wide but I just renewed mine (Bangkok Insurance) and it was THB 2500 for 2019 so it has been dropped from THB 4000 for 2018.
My contact person at Bangkok Insurance is:
Jintareeya Chasombat
[email protected]
I don’t think CAAT will accept any world wide insurances. At least they only had two approved companies when I applied my registration a year ago.
/Martin
Okay that’s helpful to know, thank you Martin
Would you advise that it would not be worth it to purchase the insurance and submit the application for my trip in 3 weeks time? The Thai embassy in London says on their webpage that the application should take between 1 & 2 weeks but if that is unachieveable it doesn’t make sense to buy insurance
I think the time estimation of the Thai embassy in London is inaccurate.
I would say 6 months and that is if you call CAAT and nag them every two weeks…
I think the best way is that you call CAAT directly and ask. That’s first hand information but even that information tends to drift over time.
/Martin
coverdrone.com these guys seem cheap and you can actually cover it even for a day.
Is this applicable for non residents of Thailand?
https://www.phantomthailand.com/product/Drone-Insurance.
Without registration and insurance it is illegal to fly in Thailand. Insurance is for each and every drone you own.
Excellent question see major!
just ask the question to the authority in charge …
To help you in thailand identity service called the registrar or if you want the Bora-Dopa Ministry of the Interior requires addesse certification for any administrative transaction of government agencies
No Thai can escape this certification of address let alone a stranger
Which means more clearly that you can not register outside the Kingdom
If you are in the kingdom you will have to produce this document
either the Tabien ban Ngor 14 blue book of the owner of Thai nationality who hosts you or a Tabien 13 ban yellow color if it is a stranger with more constraints
It is also possible to produce a residence certificate issued by the immigration office knowing that certain offices refuse if you do not have a NON-MIGRANT visa …
If i am passing through Thailand and don’t intend to fly my drone in the country, do i still need to register it just to carry it around with me? Please confirm.
I will be visiting Philippines and Singapore which have relaxed rules in terms of drone flying, so i’d like to fly it there but i will be in thailand for a certain duration, i’m just worried if i should even bother taking it or not. I don’t intend to fly in Thailand due to the intricate process.
Officially yes, because you are importing. But no-one is reporting problems at customs. So far, most people being caught and fined are the ones that have posted on Facebook. Basically, if you don’t have a license to fly, don’t post on social media!
http://www.caap.gov.ph/?s=UAV Goodlook
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gltvinlqd8i59l3/ac_11-001_unmanned_aerial_vehicle_uav_caap_1_2014.pfd_.pdf?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/94l6j65ayfztzrq/mc_21-14_new_provisions_to_pcar_part_11.11_unmanned_aircraft_vehicle_uav.pdf?dl=0
Hello,
UAV RPA Philippines flexible ?
Request license and insurance
Please look here https://www.dropbox.com/s/gltvinlqd8i59l3/ac_11-001_unmanned_aerial_vehicle_uav_caap_1_2014.pfd_.pdf
Singapour Flexible ?
Look map provided by authority CAAS aviation here
https://www.caas.gov.sg/public-passengers/unmanned-aircraft-systems/area-limits
I was just thinking of visiting the Philippines in April due to the increasing difficulties in Thailand. This document seems to confirm my research that as a recreational drone operator you do not need to have a licence.
Can someone confirm this?
Such a shame I love Thailand.
Sorry what you read ?
Please, read A It is supposed you do not have B ( Radio certificate from NTC)
you are not concernd by C
Clause 1.4.1
1.4.1CAAP APPROVAL REQUIRED
A. CAAP approval (or Authorization) is required before an ”individual” or ”organization” provides
any UAV operations required by PCARs.
B. For an individual, that approval can be in a form of a UAV Controller Certificate of Authorization
Restricted Radio Operator Certificate issued by the NTC
C. For an organization, that approval can be in a form of UAV Operator Certificate of Authorization
This is one of many sites I have recently visited.
http://www.droneguru.net/license-to-fly-a-drone/
If you fly your drone outdoors for recreational purposes then you will need to register the device if it weighs more than 0.55 pounds. At this point you have two options for flying your drone recreationally. According to the FAA, you do NOT need to obtain a remote pilot license under the following conditions:
You are flying the drone purely as a hobby and for solely recreational reasons.
You follow the guidelines set forth by your local community.
You keep your drone within a visual line-of-sight.
Yield to any and all manned aircraft.
Remain at least five miles away from airports and air traffic control towers.
Your drone must not weigh more than 55 pounds.
so no licence needed just register your drone.
John
A drone permit is not required for recreational drone use. Please adhere to the above General Philippine Drone Laws however when flying your drone
https://www.uavsystemsinternational.com/drone-laws-by-country/philippines-drone-laws/
I’ve read all the above but didn’t find the
the answer for my question – our company was invited to shoot a private property. In that case, do we need to register our drone and pilot or not? Thank you in advance.
If the property is in the Kingdom of Thailand, then yes. If you own a drone and/or fly one, you must register it and have insurance.
Please, read that !!!
Hum It is very clear …. https://www.dropbox.com/s/b96frmeytq4phr8/CAAT%20UAV%20REGISTRATION%20PROCEDURE%20EN.pdf?dl=0
Source https://www.caat.or.th/uav/faq_en.php
Be care if you use Chrome not accessible use Firefox if necessary
I have 2 CAAT licence applications, one on paper forms 8 months ago for MavicAir, one via CAAT website 3 months ago for Mavic2Pro. Still no licence.
I contacted CAAT and they said they would check, about 2 weeks later they asked me to send my latest visa entry stamp, but for 2 weeks now I’ve heard nothing. My GF called CAAT for me, they said backlog is 4 to 6 months on website applications, they suggested I send my entry visa stamp each time I enter Thailand because they reject applications from foreigner if your visa has expired. Seems like a waste of time trying to get a licence, by the time you get the licence your insurance needs renewing and you’ve probably left Thailand, or bought a new drone which will take another year to get licence. It’s a crazy system to need a separate licence for each drone, it should be like a car driving licence where the pilot is licensed and each drone registered and insured separately.
I’ve been flying the whole time in South and never had a problem, except once in national park but BiB weren’t interested in license just the fine 2000THB (1000 each in their pocket, they wanted more but my GF had a argument with them and told them 2000 was enough), the park wardens had tipped off the BiB I’d been flying so they were waiting for us on the road out of the park.
I think it is important to have NBTC certificate because you shouldn’t bring drone through the airport without one. But now NBTC is more difficult to get for tourist because they only issue a temporary import certificate to match the dates of your round trip air ticket or 60 day tourist visa. Best thing definitely is to buy your drone in Thailand when you arrive and then go straight to get your NBTC, or the shop can do it for you.
Certainly my enthusiasm for drone flying in Thailand has dropped to near zero. Turkey is my new favourite drone destination, no registration and just obey the code, but I’m sure they will soon get stricter like everywhere else is doing.
I wasn’t aware that you needed a licence to bring your drone through the airport. I have been bringing them in with out problem so far. Looks like I won’t be even bringing them any more.
That’s it then, game over, if you are a tourist. I know quite a few residents who have a licence and fly all the time.
If your a tourist the only real option is to possibly wait till some enterprising persons create a business that charge a lot to do it for you. Or some variant of that.
As a tourist you can not bring in or fly a drone into Thailand.
technically you need NBTC certificate to bring a drone (as it is radio frequency broadcast device) into Thailand, you don’t need CAAT license. But the airport customs don’t enforce this, or I’ve not heard of any report of drones being detained. I have my NBTC certificate because I bring a lot of camera gear and two drones, and customs might ask questions, I just feel more comfortable having an NBTC certificate.
There are some enterprising business for insurance and NBTC, but you can’t get around the CAAT backlog as fas as I know.
Seems impossible for tourist to get CAAT licence because you have to upload your Entry Visa Stamp with your application so you can’t apply from outside Thailand, and then it takes longer to get licence than the 90 day visa lasts so when CAAT consider your application your visa will have expired so they’ll reject it.
As i mentioned above, CAAT told my GF that I should send them my new Entry Visa Stamp each time I enter Thailand so my visa should be current when they consider my application.
For Turkey country !!!!
All UAV up 500 g shall be registred !!!!!
General Rules for Flying a Drone in Turkey
Based on our research and interpretation of the laws, here are the most important rules to know for flying a drone in Turkey.
All drone pilots who wish to fly a drone weighing more than 500 grams must register with the Turkish government prior to flying. Register here.
Approval is required prior to all commercial drone flights.
Drones cannot fly above 120 meters (394 feet).
Drones cannot weigh more than 4 kilograms (8.8 pounds) for private/personal flights.
For more information on Turkey’s drone laws, see this document issued by the government of Turkey.
Taking a Drone Through Customs in Turkey
Foreign nationality citizens cannot register as a drone pilot in Turkey. Moreover, your drone will be seized by customs unless you have received technical confirmation for your UAVs from the Turkish DGCA.
To apply for technical confirmation, use Form-336 found in the forms section of the Turkish DGCA website. You may also be required to submit your criminal record from your embassy.
Turkish citizens who wish to bring a UAV through customs must apply for a Technical Compliance Certificate. The application form and details of the application can be found here. Once the UAV has passed through customs, the vehicle is added to the General Directorate UAV Registry System.
cross Turkey off the list then, thanks for that.
I went in June and had no problem, flew all over the Lycian Coast. All the advice I read at the time was that there was a code of conduct and no registration for small hobby drone.
Do you know which country is ok? How about Mexico?
I fly a lot in Greece for my work, technically illegal but they really don’t care about small Mavic drones for real estate work, so long as you obey the code and don’t fly near airport etc. So many people use drones in Greece for travel and real estate work and police aren’t bothered by it as far as I’ve experienced.
From another list Indonesia, in practice, is very relaxed about people flying drones and I have read reports of many doing so without issues. I am unsure as to the written public laws. Again if you adhere to the usual flying guidelines.
Here in Thailand if only you could be certain of paying a fine to the BiB I would be happy with that. ai would not even mind a 1,000 fine if I was caught. I know of one case where a pilot was not given the option and taken to the local station. He was forced to register but was a resident.
So how much can one rely on paying a on the spot fine?
If I didn’t have my GF with me when I was stoped by the BiB I would have been in a lot more trouble, she owns a bar and knows how to deal with the BiB and how the ‘fines’ should be handled.
I wonder if you have insurance document and your NBTC certificate, both fairly easy to get, and you’ve applied for CAAT and printed the filled in application form, then if you’re taken to Police Station you might get away with it.
Bigger problem for photography, all the beautiful beaches and islands in the South where I want to film is No Drone Zone, so I wonder if it’s worth it.
I was just in turkey and had no issues with customs. I didn’t know about these rules.
Update ,
I got a quote for insurance and they said i would have to register with NBTC my self as i bought it second hand in Oz .
So today went all the way to NBTC in our area Khon Kaen to do it .
They said i needed a reciept of purchase ,i said I didn’t have one and they said I needed it.
I said what if someone gave it to me ,they said I needed to register it when i bought it into the country at the airport .
So this really getting out of hand ,i want to do the right thing but its harder than getting a car license.
Im gonna give up and sell it.over it .
I fly out for Phuket tonight, and not being able to fly free of any recriminations is the reason this may be my last trip to Thailand for quite some time. Awful shame I love the place, Thailand.
¬¬So, for my next jaunt abroad I am looking at other far East Asian places to go where I can fly, within the sensible law, and with ease.
Does anyone know of an Asian country that have reasonable laws?
I was thinking of Vietnam or Cambodia.
I am going to start some research but a little help from you guys would be appreciated.
I am going to pop into the local police station, with my drones, and have a chat with the boss to see what can be done for a three-week holiday.
I am going to take in the form in English but need the one in Thai.
Thanks to SPREX 64 for the link but it was in a strange format I could not print. Could someone post a Thai registration form that is easily printable? I will take the forms in the station and be very open and honest I will break none of the general Drone laws. I know it’s a long shot, but I think it is worth a few hours of waiting around and having a chat with some big copper.
It’s odd that I can fly in so many places within a few minutes’ drive of my house where it is completely legal and acceptable to fly without any worry at all.
Good evening John Gowland
I believe you have not understood the process to obtain a radio communication detention license (NBTC) and permission to fly (CAAT license) You are not resident with a Tabien Ban Ngor TS 13 or 14 certified address; No need to go in RPI Royal Thai Police they have no power except to register your device for the possession of the radio communication as provided by the law which has nothing to do with the law Drone and it does not give you the right to fly you need a flight license provided by the authority in Charge CAAT to get this lincense it is necessary to abor ensure before not after THais are not stupid people
As far as you are concerned, I’m afraid you can not get a license even if you register on the CAAT website.
Many non-residents have made this registration and have received nothing from CAAT who does not communicate with users.
personally I am resident and it took more than 8 months for him to give me my license require more insurance with a discharge payment so I lost 8 months of insurance
For all those who read me I repeat again that CAAT does not wish to see drones in the hands of tourists it is an obvious why for months the eternal discussion in this subject
try to register your Drone that way you could not start if you do not have an IP in the US I did the test using a VPN and were able to access the online registration but they request documents that I can not have if I am not in the US ;;;
For vietnam or Camboge there are also difficulties …
It is because I do understand what I need to do that I am not going to even try to go through a process that is designed to fail. I have long known what I need to do and have seen many over the last year try and fail. I know the local police can not grant me the right to fly in Phuket.
To fly a drone in Thailand, without a licence, is illegal as is prostitution.
So no one flies a drone without a licence and no prostitution takes place, anywhere in Thailand.
I understand the situation very well.
Welcom to Vietnam !!!
Vietnamin UAV Laws ( you kown very well probably and Know what you need to do …)
This is the partial information offcourse
The 2008 decree on management of unmanned aircraft and ultralight aircraft gives authority over the flight of unmanned aircraft to the Ministry of Defense. These duties include the organization of aviation clubs, establishing airfields and flight zones, and managing and supervising the flight of unmanned vehicles.
The flight of UAVs is not legal without a license from the Operations Bureau of the General Command Post, and applications for licenses must be recieved at least 14 days in advance of the proposed flight.
Licenses will be issued within 10 days of submission of the application.
One license can be valid for multiple flying events, as long as users list places they plan to fly their drones in their application.
Filming or taking photographs in the air using a UAV is not permitted without a license and. Penalties for violation are not specified in the 2008 decree but there have been incidents where foreigners were deported upon violating rules and drones with cameras have been confiscated upon flying in restricted areas.
Good look !
very true CAAT do not communicate with applicants.
Only after Thai friend contact CAAT several times on my behalf did they email me to ask for new drone photos and my latest copy of my Thailand Visa Entry Stamp, since then no further contact, nearly 9 months since I applied.
Hi, thanks for the info! I’m trying to get my drone approved and do have 2 questions about the papers:
1. It asks for registration marks and serial NO. What are the registration marks?
2. Requested operating location: what is safest to put here?
Kind regards 🙂
Felix
Valdas
My point exactly,sounds like its just becoming an insurance scam .
Wait a year now ,and no licence ,and cant give you one ,because they where to
Slow to process it .
Meanwhile ,like my wife says ,half the cars out there on the road have no insurance .nearly every Thai family member we have is in that category.
Also my wife has been reading a Thai forum and says a Thai dude had the same problem as you ,insurance expired before license approved.
First ,thanks Richard and everyone else for all the info here.
Its pretty crazy really ,i just dont think i will bother now ,maybe only fly when I visit Australia etc.
From what i gather its at least 3000bt insurance ,one year .
Takes about 7 months to get license ,so insurance is good for 3 months and then
Pay 3k again ,one company out there thai drone insurance will do it all for you
Reg inc ,for 7k+ they quoted me .
Shaneo
I feel the same. I have no problem with sensible regulations. But it has gone past that.
Very sad and frustrating. I like many just want to record the incredible beauty of the country. That’s all. Not for any monetary gain, just the pleasure of recording beauty.
What on this sweet planet is wrong with that? It’s just taking stills and video from the air.
Some of us are experienced and qualified RPAS pilots.
So you have three basic choices.
1 Don’t fly at all. Not my option, sorry.
2 Fly as carefully and respectfully as possible, preferably where no one can see. This option has become extremely difficult in the last 2 or 3 years. Its as if everyone knows the new laws to some degree and wants to make some gain from it? But Thais have become very aware of drones in the air. 2 or 3 years ago no one cared, they took no notice other than an interest. This has become very noticeable.
3 Pay people, local powers of various kinds.
It’s one of the main reasons I go to the LOS. I am looking at alternatives now.
John,
I am facing the same frustrations.
One really annoying thing is paying insurance for almost a year and not being able to fly,
Goodluck.
Almost a year since I submitted my paperwork and no license yet. Numerous promises and requests from CAAT with the last one saying that they cannot provide the license since the insurance is expired already…:-) Perhaps for those seeking for answers I would submit the necessary docs to the authorities and fly with caution and respect while waiting.
I have a couple questions for anyone (hopefully) with knowledge/experience registering *in-person* in Bangkok
1) I understand that when you register via CAAT on their website, it may take months (i.e. >=4) to get a response. But when registering at the CAAT office in person, presuming you have all the necessary paperwork (i.e. insurance, etc), do they give you something on-the-spot that entitles you to start flying? Or does that simply start the same x-month process as registering online, and any receipt/document they give you that day is NOT valid to allow you to start flying until after the x-months have elapsed?
Basically, I am arriving in Bangkok for a ~3 week trip, and am trying to determine if it would be worth physically going to CAAT on the first day to register. If the office doesn’t actually give any kind of documentation that entitles you to start flying right away, there would be no purpose & I just wouldn’t bring my drone. But if they *may* give documentation during an on-the-spot registration, then it’s definitely worth at least trying.
2) Similarly, I’ve read in many places that you can also register your drone at a police station. Is this still possible? If so, same question as above: does it give some evidence that can be used to fly right away, or it’s still not legal to fly until I receive some follow-up determination? If it is possible, does anyone know of any specific police stations (preferably in the vicinity of DMK) where they were able to do this?
Thanks in advance to anyone who might know! 🙂
I came walking to the sea today and just where I was planning to fly from, there was a police officer. He was 10m from me when I saw him and I had my Fatsharks on my forehead and one of my quads and the transmitter in my hand and my registration papers were at home. Turning back would not be an option.
I smiled at him and and he smiled back and I flew two packs standing 3m from him.
So… not all police officers see drone pilots as evil!
Here it is: https://youtu.be/v5v0dgZT-UE
Happy flying.
Martin
Yes indeed, the current procedure obstructs an Aeo (CAAT) registration for a tourist because of the need to register at CAAT there is a lot of confusion on the part of expatriates because of the fault of the two authorities who did not not coordinated with the 2 existing laws
The official way to obtain a legal license to fly is unique by CAAT which allows online registration
Note that it is useless to declare to the NBTC because the CAAT also takes into account the telecom radion on behalf of the NBTC
You must try your luck by registering online at the only CAAT eligible to provide the flight license however they require a minimum insurance of 1 million and must prove a Certificate of Resistance in the Kingdom or a Tabien ban Thor TS 14 Many have done the request and have not received anything so far except someone who says that CAAT asks him for a photocopy of his passport (certainly to see what type of visa he has and as he does not have you see they played it fine …)
I give you the official online registration link CAAT is not too bad and understandable
https://www.caat.or.th/uav/condition.php
Here the official form of declaration obligatory if you hold a drone in the realm ca has nothing to do with a license of flight it is for reasons of security on the communication even if you do not use the drone you must declare !!
Form ww30 UBC Radion NBTC (Thai – English) https://www.dropbox.com/s/2ec23hq10wluheu/%E0%B8%84%E0%B8%B3%E0%B8%82%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%82%E0%B8%B6%E0%B9%89%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%97%E0%B8%B0%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%9A%E0%B8%B5%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%9C%E0%B8%B9%E0%B9%89%E0%B8%9A%E0%B8%B1%E0%B8%87%E0%B8%84%E0%B8%B1%E0%B8%9A%E0%B8%AB%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%B7%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%9B%E0%B8%A5%E0%B9%88%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%A8%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%AF-%28%E0%B8%84%E0%B8%97-30%29.pdf?dl=0
The link to the Thai application form is broken
This is a link to the page on the NBTC page about the regulations. This is a direct link to download the form. It is only in Thai. I will take you through it step by step below. Scroll down.
Is there a way to get the Thai form? I have the one in English. I have no hope of getting approval but if I fill the form in English and Thai and sign it, it would be better than nothing if I am engaged even though I am going to be a long way from people or public places. I may even visit the local police station in Phuket and attempt a negotiation, with a boss for some sort of stamp.
Hello,
Once again the NBTC does not issue any flight authorization !!! it is a registration record of detention of a telecommunication device no more ….
You have to register directly by the CAAT which ensures both in the procedure as the graphic indicates (originally it is in Thai but I translated it) and as you can see the requirements for a flight license n have nothing to do with the statement to the NBTC which is only interested in the material and not your status in the kingdom …..
Note that the Royal Thai Police does not have the power to give you the authorization to fly and if this is the case you must have a license and insurance as provided by the regulations vool the license and insurance must be on you clearly indicated by the CAAT when she sent me my flight license ….
cordially
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ezpi9h8yg3x1l1k/Drone%20Registration%20procedure%20CAAT%2013-11-2017.pdf?dl=0
But you have said SPREX 64 that for a tourist visiting for a few weeks it is almost impossible to get a licence from CAAT. Or do you think it is possible?
Yes indeed, the current procedure obstructs an Aeo (CAAT) registration for a tourist because of the need to register at CAAT there is a lot of confusion on the part of expatriates because of the fault of the two authorities who did not not coordinated with the 2 existing laws
The official way to obtain a legal license to fly is unique by CAAT which allows online registration
Note that it is useless to declare to the NBTC because the CAAT also takes into account the telecom radion on behalf of the NBTC
You must try your luck by registering online at the only CAAT eligible to provide the flight license however they require a minimum insurance of 1 million and must prove a Certificate of Resistance in the Kingdom or a Tabien ban Thor TS 14 Many have done the request and have not received anything so far except someone who says that CAAT asks him for a photocopy of his passport (certainly to see what type of visa he has and as he does not have you see they played it fine …)
I give you the official online registration link CAAT is not too bad and understandable
This is offical addres CAAT online https://www.caat.or.th/uav/condition.php
Here the official form of declaration obligatory if you hold a drone in the realm ca has nothing to do with a license of flight it is for reasons of security on the communication even if you do not use the drone you must declare !!
Form ww30 UBC Radion NBTC (Thai – English)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2ec23hq10wluheu/%E0%B8%84%E0%B8%B3%E0%B8%82%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%82%E0%B8%B6%E0%B9%89%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%97%E0%B8%B0%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%9A%E0%B8%B5%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%9C%E0%B8%B9%E0%B9%89%E0%B8%9A%E0%B8%B1%E0%B8%87%E0%B8%84%E0%B8%B1%E0%B8%9A%E0%B8%AB%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%B7%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%9B%E0%B8%A5%E0%B9%88%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%A8%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%AF-%28%E0%B8%84%E0%B8%97-30%29.pdf?dl=0
Only one way Unfortunately
https://www.caat.or.th/uav/condition.php
Only one way unfortunately ….
https://www.caat.or.th/uav/condition.php
This is the ww30 from NBTC for radio registration but do not need to fillup if you use direct way by CAAT
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2ec23hq10wluheu/%E0%B8%84%E0%B8%B3%E0%B8%82%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%82%E0%B8%B6%E0%B9%89%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%97%E0%B8%B0%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%9A%E0%B8%B5%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%9C%E0%B8%B9%E0%B9%89%E0%B8%9A%E0%B8%B1%E0%B8%87%E0%B8%84%E0%B8%B1%E0%B8%9A%E0%B8%AB%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%B7%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%9B%E0%B8%A5%E0%B9%88%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%A8%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%AF-%28%E0%B8%84%E0%B8%97-30%29.pdf?dl=0
Regards
Hello CAAT want our immigration stamp and copy of passport. And then it takes 15 business days to get the approval. We are in Thailand from 10.11. – 25.11.18. so it can be that we get the approval when we are back in Europe. So what can we do? Do anybody had the same problem? We are going to the Nbtc office in Phuket on 12.11.18. but what is whit the CAAT? we dont want to fly illegally. Who can help?? Kind regards katy
In Thailand there are 2 government entities in charge of drones
NTBC only deals with the registration of the telecommunication system and nothing more
CAAT is the aviation authority that gives permits to fly after registration in their database
There are regulatory requirements including the requirement to have a certified address called
the Ngor Thor 14 or 13 to obtain this document you must have on your passport a NON-MIGRANT visa long stay
The government did not want to communicate properly for the issuance of licenses to tourists because to this day if we follow the regulationtaion you can not fly if you are not resident long stay a priori
The reasons are obvious the market of drones in Thailand is in full expansion and especially juicy financially
For your info to enter a drone in Thailand since the first of March 2018 it is necessary to produce a declaration in Customs with a certificate of import of conformity
still information that has not been properly deployed to the general public …
I am resident in Thailand (retirement) and it took me more than 8 months to get my license after contacting CAAT who asked me a lot of additional documents including the insurance of the mandatory drone to record the machine
You are thousands to ask questions to fly in Thailand
you doubt that the case is delicate for the Thai authorities who do not want to communicate clearly in this area for fear of crying visitors
It has set up a regulation like all countries and the rules are very clearly established
Note that by registering electronically on the CAAT website you issue your identity and especially the serial number of your Drone is interested in the authority when you issue a license you must not dream too much still waiting for their license and I’m afraid they will wait a long time …….
Please note that I have a license in good standing and the mastery of the AIP 5.1 MAP that drives all authorized flight space in Thailand it is time law what can pilot drone know
Which means that if you fly in a VTF VTR VTD space defined by the map named in the 2015 Drone Law text any authority can punish you without you having committed any incident or accident and Thailand the phone call is the national exercise
hello sir
may i contact you by Email?
i have some questions about Drone fly
Sorry, everything I know is on this blog post. Best to post here and see if anyone else can help you.
Hello,
Please look this process registration here
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ezpi9h8yg3x1l1k/Drone%20Registration%20procedure%20CAAT%2013-11-2017.pdf?dl=0
In Thailand there are 2 government entities in charge of drones
NTBC only deals with the registration of the telecommunication system and nothing more
CAAT is the aviation authority that gives permits to fly after registration in their database
There are regulatory requirements including the requirement to have a certified address called
the Ngor Thor 14 or 13 to obtain this document you must have on your passport a NON-MIGRANT visa long stay
The government did not want to communicate properly for the issuance of licenses to tourists because to this day if we follow the regulationtaion you can not fly if you are not resident long stay a priori
The reasons are obvious the market of drones in Thailand is in full expansion and especially juicy financially
For your info to enter a drone in Thailand since the first of March 2018 it is necessary to produce a declaration in Customs with a certificate of import of conformity
still information that has not been properly deployed to the general public …
I am resident in Thailand (retirement) and it took me more than 8 months to get my license after contacting CAAT who asked me a lot of additional documents including the insurance of the mandatory drone to record the machine
You are thousands to ask questions to fly in Thailand
you doubt that the case is delicate for the Thai authorities who do not want to communicate clearly in this area for fear of crying visitors
It has set up a regulation like all countries and the rules are very clearly established
Note that by registering electronically on the CAAT website you issue your identity and especially the serial number of your Drone is interested in the authority when you issue a license you must not dream too much still waiting for their license and I’m afraid they will wait a long time …….
Please note that I have a license in good standing and the mastery of the AIP 51 card that drives all authorized flight space in Thailand it is time law what can pilot drone know
Which means that if you fly in a VTF VTR VTD space defined by the map named in the 2015 Drone Law text any authority can punish you without you having committed any incident or accident and Thailand the phone call is the national exercise
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4o98094f7m8rtcd/DEPLOIEMENT%20MASS%20MEDIAS%20CAAT%20AUTHORITY%20CONFIRM%20AIP%20ENR%205.1.pdf?dl=0
These regs and insurance apply to even the tiniest of drones like a Tello?
Anybody?
Apparently, if you rip of the camera, then it doesn’t. If your Tello has the camera onboard, it does.
Hi Richard! Thanks for all the great info thus far. My husband and I are are going to Thailand for Christmas this year, and we would like to fly our drone while we are in Khao Sok and Khao Lak. I submitted an application to CAAT and received an answer back that our application is incomplete because we do not have an immigration stamp (they gave us this reply within about 10 days of submitting the application). Does that mean we can only apply once we’ve already been accepted into and are officially in the country? How to tourists go about flying drones if this is the case? Your response is greatly appreciated!
Hello,
Please lok AIP MAP 51
kHAO SOK and KAO LAK National park are VTD restricted areas as per the law
You cannot fly !!!
Here the list of restricted areas extract from MAP AIP5.1 provided by CAAT
It is not completed more area are concerned
No Fly Drone AIP MAP5.1 Thailand as per Law
Island,Bond,Beach,National Park Thailand
Sources / CAAT https://www.caat.or.th/th/archives/20455
Ko Born Ao Ang Krapon Ao Mahatchai Ao Tung Plong Budo Su Ngai Padi montain Range National
Ko Chang Ao Bang Sare Ao Makham Ao Udom Chae Son Waterfall
Ko Katen Ao Bai Lan Ao Manao Ao Wai Chaek Dawn at Phanomrung History Park
Ko Khoei Ao Ban saen Ao Luk Ao Work Tum Doi Luang National Park
Ko Khram Yai Ao Bang Bao Ao Muang Ao Yai Doi Pha Hom Pok National Park
Ko Kut Ao Bang Kradan Ao Muang Thon Noi Ao Yai Haui Nam Dang National Park
Ko Lan 8% Ao Bang Prong Ao Na Chom Thian Ao Yai Ki Kaeng Khrung National Park
Ko Mai Thon Ao Bang Pu Ao NaKlua Ao Yang Khao Luang National Park preservation
Ko Mak Ao Bang Saphan Ao Noi Ao Yon Khao Sok National Park (VTD59)
Ko Payang Ao Bang Suk Ao Pathiu Ao Yuang Khao Yai National Park
ko Phaluai Ao Bangtau Ao Patong Khao Lak (VTD 16) Khlong Lan National Park
Ko Phangan Ao Bann Son Ao Patthaya Khlong Phanom National Park
Ko Phi phi Don Ao Bnag Pit Ao Phak Waen Ko similan National Park
Ko Phra Thong Ao Chalok Lam Ao Phra Laem Sun National Park
Ko Phuket 90% Ao Chalong Ao Po Lamnam Kra buri National Park
Ko Prayam Ao Chek Ao Puddesawan Lum Nam National Park
Ko Ra Ao Chuksamed Ao Raet Mae Wong National Park
Ko Samae San 25% Ao Chumphon Ao Rang Chorakhe Mu Ko Chang National Park
Ko Samui Ao Dhung Ga Ao Salak Khok Mu ko Chumphon Nationa Park
Ko Similan Ao Hat Chang Ao Salat Mu Ko Phetra National Park
Ko Sukon 20% Ao Hat Khuat Ao Sammuk Nam Kong National Park
Ko Surin Nua Ao Hat Rin Ao Sapparot Nam Nao National Park (80%)
Ko Surin Tai Ao Hat Wai Nam Ao Satahib Bay Ngao Waterfall
Ko Ta Ru Tao 60% Ao Hat Yao Ao Slukpet Op Luang National Park
Ko Tao Ao Hua Hin Ao Swi Pang Sida National Park
Ko Tasai Ao Kalang Ao Ta Nit Phanom Rung Historical Park
Ko Thalu 20% Ao Kham Ao Tang Chen Phu Chong Na Yoi national Park
Ao Khlong Chao Ao Tha Rua Phu Luang Wildlife ( 80%)
Ao Khlong Na Ao Thong Nian Phu Phang Nationa Park
Ao Khlong Phrao Ao Thong Ta Tan Sai Yok National Park
Ao Kho Ao Thung Kham Si Lanna National Park
Ao Khram Ao To Nung Si phang Nga National Park
Ao Kluai Ao Tong Krok Sikiet Waterfall National Park
Ao Kong Kang Ao Tong Wo Ta Phraya National Park
Ao Krasu Ao Tong Yai Tarutao National Park
Ao Krut Ao Trat Thap Lan National Park
Ao Kung Ao Tung Kaitea ThapLan National Park
Wang Taikraia Parc waterfall
These regs and insurance apply to even the tiniest of drones like a Tello that fits in the hand? How much can I buy a compatible Tello in Bangkok for with all the laws complied with?
Hi Richard,
How do you think, are the customs officers will confiscate my drone when I land in Thailand and I do not have a license to show them? Or they will let me go to the country with drone..
Thank you!
There have been no reports of customs confiscating drones.
You mean, I’m not going to have any problems at customs to enter the country with unlicensed drones? After that, I have to look out for the police officers and let drone fly on lonely beaches and away from crowds? Who would have bothered me once I had enter to Thailand and form whom to protect?
I didn’t say that. I said no-one has reported a problem with customs so far. You might be the first! As for flying illegally while in Thailand, there have been reports of people being charged for flying without a license. Though in all the cases I’ve seen it was because they broke the law of flying too high or too near airports or other restricted zones. So, if you obey the restrictions and you are discreet, your risks are low.
Hello,
As régulation, the customs officer do not have the power to confiscate your drone but they can force you to leave it in storage area at the airport.
You will receive an official receipt which will allow you to recover your equipment upon your departure. If such a thing happens expect 2 more hours before your departure because it takes some time to find the equipment at the detention stock
You will be charged for the stockage time periode off course
Cordially
Question on the topic.. I plan on leaving my current drone at home while on holiday in Thailand, but I’ve been eyeing the new Mavic 2 Pro. I was thinking if I can get one same price / better price than at home, I would purchase there directly. Would I have any issues bringing it home after? Obviously I would fly discreetly in rural areas – but better than bringing one into the country and not having it registered, I would only be leaving the country with it. What are your thoughts? Oh, and I have business insurance that I use to fly locally, but my insurance also protects me in all countries except a select view. So I assume that would be adequate for “insurance” in Thailand, or do I need specific, Thai insurance?
No-one is reporting problems bring in or taking out drones. So you should be fine. However, if you choose to fly here, you should be aware it’s illegal without the proper licenses. Your decision. I cannot advise you either way.
I think the question most of us want to know the answer to is, Richard and Martin, how do we register with the least amount of hassle and hard work to enable us to fly in Thailand for a week or two as a tourist.
I am hoping we can do it online and it only take a month or so.
Help!
Hi !
What I need if I stay juste one week in bangkok without flighting with my drone. I will make an escale. The drone is for New Zealand, not thailand. What should I do ? Will they ask me something to the airport ?
Many thanks !
You will most certainly be fine if you are not flying.
Hi Florian,
I am fine I’m NZ too. Have you had any problems re your Drone?
Gentleman,
Please, check the site CAAT
https://www.caat.or.th/th/archives/31657
Translation of the process drone registration process infography
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ezpi9h8yg3x1l1k/Drone%20Registration%20procedure%20CAAT%2013-11-2017.pdf?dl=0
Original of the drone registration process
https://www.caat.or.th/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/CAAT-dronenew13-11-2017-1.pdf
MAP AIP NER 5.1 to be used for fly as per the law
AIP NER 5.1 Diagram showing prohibited area or release area.
Diagram showing prohibited area or release area.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/yzidl1n4kcke1ae/AIP%20NER%205.1%20CAAT-AIS%20fly%20permission%20around%20Bangkok%20permission%2030%20km%20minimum.JPG?dl=0
You can free download application kmz working with Google Earth
Prove my legal license ( I am long stay resident in Thailand )
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0z81sijowbc4tmo/No%20ID%20Official%20assignation%20drone%20license%2017%20JULY%202018.JPG?dl=0
I have given up trying to find a place in Bangkok to fly that is safe and away from people and the local enforces, they are everywhere, parks, street corners.
Were can I fly that is close but outside Bangkok? Where can I fly that is of interest a few hours from Bangkok. I am trying to organise a day or two day trip to Kanchanaburi. I am thinking of hiring a taxi for the day so I can take a P4P, Mavic Pro 1 and try out a new Mavic 2 zoom. Any help with suggestions for close to Bangkok and within a few hours. Or even inside the city?
Appreciated.
Email me martin at siamect dot com and I can show you some places where I fly. I fly around old sukumvit rd Samutprakarn area. I have some videos on YouTube. Just search for siamect and you will find them.
I believe the 19km no-fly zone for Bangkok is still operating. So, basically you cannot legally fly in much of Bangkok. You also cannot fly within 9km of an airport. I suggest using google earth to find open spaces outside of Bangkok to fly.
Can you suggest a flew places outside Bangkok within an hour or two?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/yzidl1n4kcke1ae/AIP%20NER%205.1%20CAAT-AIS%20fly%20permission%20around%20Bangkok%20permission%2030%20km%20minimum.JPG?dl=0
Hello Richard
I have already contacted you several times for you to deploy the AIP NER 5.1 Card specifically designed for CAAT / AIS drone flights
this MAP is national and international legal value it is well referenced in the law Drone of 2015
Why do not talk about this important map that is a free application that runs on Google Earth the ban flying radius on Bangkok is well above the value of 19 km in VTR1 Id 3000 is’ ’30 km ” to from the center of BKK to the north 42 km west only east is available from Ransit Klong Sam Wa
I also remind you that if the space is not allowed insurance will not cover!
https://www.dropbox.com/s/yzidl1n4kcke1ae/AIP%20NER%205.1%20CAAT-AIS%20fly%20permission%20around%20Bangkok%20permission%2030%20km%20minimum.JPG?dl=0
Here is a link to the file. Import it in Google earth
https://www.caat.or.th/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/%E0%B9%81%E0%B8%9C%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%A0%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%9E%E0%B9%81%E0%B8%AA%E0%B8%94%E0%B8%87%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%82%E0%B8%95%E0%B8%9E%E0%B8%B7%E0%B9%89%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%97%E0%B8%B5%E0%B9%88%E0%B8%AB%E0%B9%89%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%A1%E0%B8%9A%E0%B8%B1%E0%B8%87%E0%B8%84%E0%B8%B1%E0%B8%9A%E0%B8%AB%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%B7%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%9B%E0%B8%A5%E0%B9%88%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%A2.kmz
Hi Richard,
I plan to bring my Spark to Bangkok next week, if I didn’t have any registration for my drone. Will the immigration confiscate my drone when I arrive the airport?
Many thanks for your reply.
/Toby
Trying to source insurance cover to meet the Thai CAAT requirement. Can anybody recommend? I have googled drone insurance thailand and read a lot of info but nobody really talks price except 3000thb which I feel is over the top for someone who is only trying to do the right thing and will probably fly a few times a month (maybe)
Yup you will be looking at least 3,000 Baht for 12 months of drone insurance.
Over the top? maybe
Necessary ? absolutely!
I approached some insurance companies in Thailand about insurance and they all thought I wanted to insure a helicopter. Could get them to understand what a drone is. ???????
I went to see a Thai lady I know yesterday and showed her the latest NBTC forms which were all in Thai, she spoke to her sister and an hour later I had an English version in my inbox. Welcome to download, hopefully it is OK.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qfwg8wj9v8z0gnz/NBTC-EnglishForm.pdf?dl=0
Hello Chris
Thank you very much for this feed back
But that do not give any permission to fly !!! ( do not confuse )
Only permission to keep legally your radio in Thailand as per the law communication radio
About radio conformity certificate Owner’s Declaration of Conformity (ODoC) Form
do not forget to download and fill-up the form 32 here
http://www.nbtc.go.th/getattachment/Business/commu/radio/licensing/%E0%B9%81%E0%B8%9A%E0%B8%9A%E0%B8%9F%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%A3%E0%B9%8C%E0%B8%A1%E0%B8%84%E0%B8%B3%E0%B8%82%E0%B8%AD/31833/%E0%B9%81%E0%B8%9A%E0%B8%9A%E0%B8%84%E0%B8%B3%E0%B8%82%E0%B8%AD-32.pdf.aspx
good look !
regards
Interesting. Does this “ODoC” replace the “SDoC” ?
”Sdoc” is réserved for certification of new material from import factory only as per complex procedure to qualified new equipment
http://standard1.nbtc.go.th/getattachment/6679c90c-216b-4c8d-870f-49f7dd5fc3a4/ME.aspx
https://www.csiassoc.com/thailand.html
Odoc is very simple form to be used for owner declaration in office NBTC
Bought my Mavic Air yesterday from official DJI store in Siam Discivery.
1) they are selling insurance for 1.5k THB but for a surprise they have promotion and gave it for free (from Falcon, 1 year)
2) you can fill all registration papers in the store (CAAT and NTBC)
3) they said I can use my drone starting from the next day as I applied on registration and have insurance. I asked the same question several time and from m different shop assistants – the answer is the same. You can flight…
So now I’m curious what is who is wrong.
Thanks for your update.
Sorry, do not take those few words, but I think I’ll do you a favor by reminding you of the facts ….
They will not kill the goose that lays the golden eggs !!!
What you can be naive my friend …
remember in thailand the national exercise is the denation by telephone and as they are all cousins the day when it will happen to you do not come to cry ……
You know very well that there is a regulation and that as long as you have not received your license to fly you are in violation
note that your insurance is invalid even if you are not responsible for an accident your liability will be incurred and the above Thais know how to believe me … ….
it’s really desperate to see how foreigners can interpret and believe the versions of Thais who in the end do not care about your mouth and do not know their own legislation …
Finally, do as you wish, and I do not see too much interest to intervene on forums
regards
so if i dont have the permit i cant fly?
Officially yes, but many people still fly without one. Just be discreet and don’t annoy anyone.
Very bad advice my friend !!!!
Drone Forum 2018 July 18, 2018
https://www.caat.or.th/th/archives/36023
It’s not advice. It’s a statement of fact. However I would advise people to act legally in all matters.
Not a good idea.
Hello !
After many intervention in your blog for pertinent information
My question is :
Why you do not talk and do not dispatch the AIP ENR 5.1 MAP ? ( drone fly areas)
this Application issued by authority CAAT/AIS is official !!!
This map have juridic power ( national & International ) shall be used by all drone operator as per the law drone of 2015 clearly indicated !!!!
do you know anybody in Thailand that would register the Drone and file the paperwork for you before we come over to that country
You can do it online.
The link to registration online is here:
https://www.caat.or.th/uav/index.php
There is a pop-up that you have to click away, there is an X in the top right corner.
Scroll down to the bottom and there is a button on the right side “Drone Register”
Hope it works.
/Martin
it’s not possible to register from outside Thailand. If you’re non-Thai you have to upload your Passport Entry Visa and Passport Entry Stamp with your other documents
I have submitted my application back in November 2017 and amendments that were requested after 6 months (self declaration or something like it) and so far have not received the license yet :-). So its been almost a year since my paperwork has been submitted….So this is the info for those expecting a quick turn around. And I submitted as a resident in Thailand.
You can still do it. If you go through the procedure it ask for your passport if you are Other nationality.
/Martin
Yes, you have to upload your passport,
plus you must upload Entry Visa stamped, it is mandatory. If you don’t upload your Entry Visa you will not receive your license.
So you must have an Stamped Entry Visa into Thailand before you can apply.
Once you have applied to can come and go to Thailand with your licence.
That doesn’t stop you from using the online procedure… I get so tired….
Ah ! Ah ! You naif and do not the rule that is clear …
You cannot fly before to have your official license from CAAT and Isurance will be invalid during the process registration ( call insurance …be care !!!! )
please, investigate if the shop People have summit your candidature to CAAT
You will wait long time……………….. and never you will receive you Official license from CAAT
Please, call CAAT an officer in charge of inscription will explain some thing detail condition
Regards
Hello,
I receive my license after to many control and clarification with the CAAT !!! ….
If people do not receive from CAAT this new document You will wait longtime ….
https://www.dropbox.com/s/73gin1wkth13inv/Self-Declaration%20blank%20form.pdf?dl=0
Total process duration 7 months !!!!
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nwpga6ylwhfde1h/No%20ID%20Official%20drone%20license%2017%20JULY%202018.JPG?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0z81sijowbc4tmo/No%20ID%20Official%20assignation%20drone%20license%2017%20JULY%202018.JPG?dl=0
May be I can talk with you and others people now ?….
I insist about the areas restricted or forbidden as per the law article
2. Do not fly into the restricted areas and hazardous areas as declared in the Thai Aviation Press Statement. (Aeronautical Information Publication – Thailand or AIP – Thailand)
It is the major document !!!
Never you talk about the AIP-MAP ( NER 5.1 ) the map is contractual confirmed by CAAT/AIS
This AIP map is clearly notified in the 2015 law …
Well,its the same as anywhere.u wouldn’t be able to fly anywhere near Buckingham palace in the UK or say The Whitehouse in America.like I said just be sensible,only an idiot asking for trouble would be stupid enough to fly strictly prohibited areas such as the royal palace or around airports.im not tryin to pick hairs,ive been to Thailand afew times now and i love the thai people and they clearly have enough on there plates without having to deal with wreckless drone pilots.just use ur common sense and ask permission if possible and whatever they say weither its a yes or a no abide with it and be polite.thats my thoughts anyway
I’m not sure if you realize how far 19km is as the crow flies. I don’t live in Bangkok but I’m just on the edge of this exclusion zone. And I’m about a 90 minutes drive from the palace.
Well, I guess it depends on the sensitivity of the area. As an example, the general no-fly zone around airports in the US is 5 miles, but DCA requires 15 miles!
Hello !
After many intervention in your blog for pertinent information
My question is :
Why you do not talk and do not dispatch the AIP ENR 5.1 MAP ? ( drone fly areas)
this Application issued by authority CAAT/AIS is official !!!
This map have juridic power ( national & International ) shall be used by all drone operator as per the law drone of 2015 clearly indicated !!!!
I did a resume movie to understand the buffer radius for everybody talk to much without supporting document and do not have any aero experience !!
please again !!!!
look this movie hors dowload APPS provided by CAAT/AIS
CAAT/AIS Have increased the single primary VTD buffer ID Block 5 milles and add to many others buffers to cover all Bangkok city no fly without permission included mass medias
AIP MAP NER 5.1 Movie here https://www.dropbox.com/s/ji5elxews0ze560/AIP%20NER%205.1%20NO%20DRONE%20FLY%20AREAS%20THAILAND.AVI?dl=0
Bangkok restriction fly drone https://www.dropbox.com/s/yzidl1n4kcke1ae/AIP%20NER%205.1%20CAAT-AIS%20fly%20permission%20around%20Bangkok%20permission%2030%20km%20minimum.JPG?dl=0
Well,ur not allowed to fly anyway in built up areas and around people so flying on or around Bangkok city is breakin the rules.like I said just be polite and if possible ask for permission,be discreet and don’t do anything silly or anything that could endanger people or property.havin said that though.if u do choose to fly without the permits make sure u don’t crash and wreck anything or anyone else u will probably be in a spot of bother.
Bangkok is not all built up areas. However there’s a 19km exclusion zone from Dusit Palace still strictly enforced.
Hi All. I read through this very informative article and comments. Well done and thank you. I just today purchased a DJI Spark for the sole purpose of bringing it to Thailand during my visit October 6-15. Then I stumbled upon this posting :(.
1. Can I buy insurance and register online, remotely?
2. Do you think its possible to get registered and insured by October 6?
3. Does anyone have the latest and up-to-date process for registering with NBTC and CAAT? Is CAAT necessary since the Spark is so small (but it does have a camera)
4. Do you know of a reputable online company that can do all this for me in the next 7 weeks remotely?
Thank you very much.
You dream my Friend ….
Hello, this is a very instructive article, and the following question might sound a bit stupid, but I can’t seem to find any reliable source regarding this issue.
Do these regulations also apply to radio-controlled model aircrafts flown at dedicated private flying fields?
Thank you very much.
Hello !
All bangkok area is prohibites under VTD
Note authority have incresed the radius of all restricted areas
I am very supprised, I built movie to shown AIP MAP NER 5.1 and nobody did any comments
I am not shure finally the movie have been viewed !!
Insurance ( MITARE ) confirm any accident ou incident will be not covered if the fly is located inside restricted area swhow by AIP MAP as per the law
again here the AIP MAP NER 5.5 movie …https://www.dropbox.com/s/ji5elxews0ze560/AIP%20NER%205.1%20NO%20DRONE%20FLY%20AREAS%20THAILAND.AVI?dl=0
cordially
Email autority
Dear sir
I have received your email and I want to clarify about red area in Google Earth map.
Red area in Google Earth map is :
1. Restricted Area, Prohibited Area, and Danger Area that Published in AIP-Thailand ENR 5.1
2.The area within 5 nautical mile (9 KM.) from airport or temporary airfield (Red circle)
in case of unable to comply with article 5 of The Announcement of the Ministry of Transport on Rules to Apply for Permission and Conditions to Control and Launch Unmanned Aircraft in the category of Remotely Piloted Aircraft B.E.2558 (attached file) you shall notify Director General in written document (according to article 17)
Best Regards,
อภิวัฒน์ จันทร์เรือง
กองมาตรฐานการจัดการจราจรทางอากาศ
ฝ่ายมาตรฐานบริการการเดินอากาศ
Mr Apiwat Chanrueang
Air Traffic Management Standards Division (TS)
Air Navigation Services Standards Department (ANS)
Civil Aviation Authority of Thailand (CAAT)
333/103 Moo 4, Laksi Plaza Building, 7th Floor, Kamphaeng Phet 6 Rd.,
Talat Bang Khen, Laksi, Bangkok 10210 , Thailand
Website : http://www.caat.or.th , Tel : 02 5688824, email : [email protected]